Autism and Challenging Behaviour part 10. Autism and wandering! Have your child with autism ever walked off? What did you do about it?

Autism and a missing child

Autism and a missing child

I have to say, as the parent of a seven year old boy with autism, it is one of my greatest fears.

It? When an autistic child goes missing.

What happens if you child wanders off? How do you cope?

So far it has not happened . At present our son John is still quite clingy. Indeed he does not like to swim to the deep end of the pool. Other wise “bad things will happen” as he puts it. But I have to say I’m terrified that a day will come when he just wanders off.

Most of us in the ASD community have read about Avonte Oquendo the 14 year old from New York who went missing in October 2013. He remains were discovered three months later. His mother according to recent reports has decided to take the city among other to court for negligence.

A repeat of such an event is something which scares all parents but with a child with autism it does seem to be much higher.

So what should I do? Sadly it is impossible to watch John every minute to every daY. Hence this blog post.

I’m looking for advice from my readers. Please use the comments section below to add your opinions. It would be great if you could consider some of the following questions.:-

a) Has you child with autism ever wandered? If so what were the circumstance?
b) What do you do to prevent your child from wandering?
c) How effective is it?
d) What one piece of advice would you give to the parents of a child with autism who has just come missing?
e) What are the best places to turn for support?

Please remember that these are only suggestions as to what aspect of the topic to discuss. many thing you have to share will be of great interest to us.

Many thanks in advance.

 

KirstyEllis It may sound like a stupid idea but if it worry’s you that much that he could just wander off, check out the range of tracking devices you can put on just about anything. They come in all shapes and sizes and some are so tiny you could attach them to belts etc… so long as they are not removed you could find your child using GPS and real time tracking.  My child will run off occasionally given the right situation. He is Autistic.
LorraineScottYoung My daughter only tends to wander when she is in her own world and not aware of what she is doing, she is scared of traffic and roads so she tends to stay close.  However if we are in doors for example a shopping centre she can easily wander off without even realising.

Once on a haven holiday she was having a spin on the dance floor, I popped my head into my bag for a second to get my purse for drinks, when I looked up she was gone.  She had gone from the front of the entertainment room through 2 arcades and got into a Postman pat Ride – it was so scary.

When we went to Butlins we tested her, we let her wander where she wanted so we could follow and see what she would do.  Unfortunately she wandered down to the beach and if we hadn’t been following her she would have gone into the sea – again very scare.

We now use a wristband from I am Lost – here is the link.  So far she hasn’t wandered or got lost but I know should it happen she can point someone to her wristband which they pop a number into an app on their phone and it will dial my number.

http://www.iam-lost.co.uk/product/lost-child-pack/

Autism Life Hacks – Getting to sleep and staying asleep.

Autism and sleeping

Autism and sleeping

Actually this is also an issue shared by most parents/caregivers of children when they are first born.  One can tell parents of new born babies  as they walk down the road by the zombie-like expression on their faces and occasional habit of going to sleep mid-conversation.

Problem is that for parents of children with autism this can go on for a long, long time after other children are snuggled up in bed.

In AutismTalk (https://www.facebook.com/AutismTalk), our Facebook discussion page, people often write in asking questions about how best to get their children with autism a  good night‘s sleep.

Now, I should mention that our son John has over the years developed reasonably regular sleeping habits. Although he is a nightmare when jetlagged.  But then so am I……………..

These days he sleeps from around 10 o’clock in the evening to around 7 o’clock the next morning.  So we know we are doing pretty well considering.  That being said he likes to have a snack before going to sleep (in his case either an apple or a pear) and needs to be cuddled as he drops off.  Oh, and he will often re-appear in the middle of the night to check we are okay.

I can generally tell when this has happened by the kick which emanates from the middle of the bed where he has placed himself.  He has a bath generally after his supper a few hours earlier.

But I know that even though he goes to sleep much later than we would like we are much better off than many parents.  Indeed I’ve heard of some children and adults who hardly sleep. Sometimes just a few minutes at a time.

The aim of this blog post is to give you an opportunity to share your autism and sleeping story.  In particular what methods you have employed to improve the situation.  You might like to consider some of the following questions when giving your comments and sharing your experience:-

1) Can you describe your or your loved one’s sleep patterns and how they have developed/changed over the years?  For better or worse?

2) If you or your child has poor sleeping patterns what effect does this have on the people around your?

3) What techniques have you used to develope a more “normal” sleeping pattern?

4) How successful have they been?

Please feel free to share anything with our readers you think will be of value in the comments section below.

Finally, is it possible for it NOT to be a problem that somebody only sleeps for a shorter time than the eight hour norm?  I know a number of people who really only sleep for a few hours a day and do not suffer from sleep deprivation. Is this ever the case with a person with autism?

Thanks very much in advance.

 

Melatonin has been a life saver for my two boys with autism. If all else fails I give them half of a dissolving tablet and the drift off 20-30 minutes later. But if you give it every night they can develop a resistance to it and you have to keep upping it. That is why we use it as a last resort. Try a steady nightly schedule first. Hope this helps.
LauraAndruk Elizabeth Howell  A developmental pediatrician told me that autistic children do not produce enough melatonin in order to fall asleep, this is why he suggests it.
clairsims I have two one grandson with downs syndrome and autism, sleep has always been a problem, still is he is now 28yrs, My great grandson is 4yrs old just been diagnosed with autism, just read about melatonin and calms forte, going to call my granddaughter and have her check this out. Iwill also look in to it.
AimeeTrevelyan Our lb used to have to be cuddled to sleep evey night, would take hours laying in bed, and eventually he would drop off usually before midnight, but then would wake around 2 and stay awake for about 3 hours running around smiling. When he was a baby we couldn’t put him in his cot and do the whole cry to sleep thing he would just make himself sick. He was put on fenerghen and it made things worse. Then when he was diagnosed high functioning asd at the age of 3 they prescribed 3ml of melatonin nightly and now majority of the time he falls asleep by 9 and wakes at 7. So much better 🙂
Rebecca318 Elizabeth Howell Yea – I should have added we only do that during school days or on days when he cannot sleep in the next day.  While it can cause the body to stop producing on its own – he already does not produce enough to slow his brain down so the good far out weighs the possible bad.  He needs sleep and I would rather give him something his body would otherwise produce instead of a narcotic or other substance.
Elizabeth Howell There is a problem with giving your child melatonin. Our bodies naturally produce melatonin and when you feed it extra doses your body then stops producing it’s own melatonin which in turn leaves you dependent on the pill. It’s a nice temporary fix but not to give to your child on a nightly basis.
Rebecca318 Melatonin and Calms Forte has worked wonders for my 8 year old son.  The melatonin helps slow his brain down to fall asleep and the Calms Forte helps him stay asleep.  He went from waking 3-4 times a night to now 1 or 2 and sometimes sleeping all night!  Calms Forte is all natural.  I had never heard of it but his new child development specialist recommended it and said she had great results for the sleeping with her spectrum kids as well as ADHD – the Calms Forte has also helped him during the day when he gets really wound up or overwhelmed.  I give him 1/2 of one for the day.  Worth checking out!
nicolebicebey My son was diagnosed PDD/NOS at age 3. He is now 19. He never slept well after the age of 2, he was a perfect baby before that sleeping more than most. He wanted to stay up all hours and then only sleep for about 4hours at most when he did fall asleep. My husband was in the military and we were so tired I remember being so frustrated at my child for not going to sleep so I just laid in his bed with him and made him stay with me and held him tight so he could not leave the bed. He got upset and cried until he cried himself to sleep. That started to be a pattern for about a week until he started to go to sleep when I put him to bed but he never slept through the night. I finally stopped fighting it and found things for him to do during the night which were quiet. Oh we tried GF/Casein free which was good for skin problems but not much else, he was also non verbal. He is now verbal with a slight delay in speech and is “recovered” from the autism. Not really but that’s what I was told by the last person who did his testing. At age 5 when he all of the sudden decided he wanted to make anime cartoons and started drawing I found my quiet task to get him through the night and keep him occupied while we slept. I slept in his room while he drew and drew and drew. He draws wonderfully (thanks to that obsessive quality) and wants to become a special effects artist. He is not a natural artist. There are people who can just draw anything, his comes from working hard at it and he is never without his sketch book. I just took a weakness or problem-his lack of sleep- and turned it into a major strength. I don’t think his sleep pattern will ever be “normal” but he turned into an artist in a very employable field and can now support himself. That is all I ever wanted for him is to have a life where he can be productive and possibly have a family of his own and be happy. I also homeschooled so that helped with our crazy hours.
LisabethHutchison
jlrowan1973 My son, now almost 14, had a really rocky start with his sleep patterns.  I can’t remember exactly when it started, but probably around age 2.  We would put him to bed…then spend the next 3 hours taking turns putting him back into bed when he came out.  It was exhausting for all of us.  We were tired at work the next day and short with the kids, and Luke was trying to sleep in the daytime.  It didn’t matter what we did to keep him awake, he still was up at night for hours.  To be honest, the sleeping didn’t resolve until we put him on a gluten free/casein free diet.  I eliminated dairy first, which I do feel is a bigger problem for him, and the improvement was almost immediate.  Taking out gluten helped too, with the sleeping but with other behaviors as well.  Since then, Luke has not had any sleeping problems.  He goes to bed exactly on time and has an uncanny internal clock that wakes him up exactly when he needs to to get ready for school.

These days, we are more lax on the GFCF diet and give enzymes with dairy/gluten, but in the beginning, I think the strict diet was crucial for helping his sleep habits along with many other behaviors.  Dairy contributes to his stimming and general awareness of everything around him.  When we first eliminated dairy, I saw a cloud lift from his eyes almost immediately.  Gluten contributes to his emotional well-being.  If he gets a lot of gluten, even now, I notice more anxiety and a shorter temper.

I know the diet is still controversial, but that is how we solved a lot of problems.  Did it “cure” my son?  No, not by a long shot.  However, it was and still is a huge component of his success.  The diet was something I could control and I was adamant about not using medication with him and it worked out for us.

Toilet training your child with autism spectrum disorder (ASD)? An invitation to take part in a research project from in the Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research (ICAN).


Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research

Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research

We are running a  number of invitations to our readers to participate in research which we hope will greatly benefit the wider autism community on behalf of in the Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research (ICAN).  You can check out their web site here http://www.nuigalway.ie/ican/index.html.

The subject of this study is toilet training and autistic children.

Has your child experienced toilet training difficulties?  Or has toileting been successful for your child? The Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research (ICAN) in National University of Ireland, Galway are interested in hearing about your experiences with toileting a child or adolescent aged 5 to 17 years with autism.  We are interested in how being successfully toilet trained or not being toilet trained affects a child’s sleep, gastrointestinal symptoms, adaptive behaviour and quality of life. Even if your child doesn’t have these symptoms, we can still learn a lot from your information on why some children have these symptoms and others do not.

Please click below to learn more.

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For a detailed discussion on toilet training for children with autism please have a look at our previous blog post on the subject https://patienttalk.org/autism-and-challenging-behaviour-part-two-how-do-you-go-about-toilet-training-an-autistic-child/


Does your child with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) have behaviour problems? Please help The Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research (ICAN) with their important research.


Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research

Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research

We are posting this invitation on behalf of Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research (ICAN).  You can have a look at their web site here http://www.nuigalway.ie/ican/index.html

 

Some children with autism have behaviour problems. Other children have Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (AD/HD) or display some AD/HD symptoms, while some children do not have these symptoms. The Irish Centre for Autism and Neurodevelopmental Research (ICAN) are interested in investigating behaviour problems and AD/HD symptoms in children with autism. We are also interested in investigating whether there is a link between behaviour problems and gastrointestinal symptoms. We would like to hear from parents of children with autism who are aged 6 to 17 years. Even if your child doesn’t have these symptoms, we can still learn a lot from your information on why some children have behaviour problems and why others do not.

Please click below to learn more.

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You might be interested in our previous blogs on autism and challenging behaviour here https://patienttalk.org/tag/autism-and-challenging-behaviour/

Autism and Challenging Behaviour Part Eight. Getting dressed in the morning.

Autism and learning to get dressed

Autism and learning to get dressed

This is one of those areas which my wife and I still have big issue with  regards  to our seven year old autistic son named John. So far we have drawn a bit of a blank in teaching him how to get dressed in the morning, or at any time, so I thought I would throw myself on the mercy of our readers and ask them how it’s done.

I should explain that John has a neurotypical sister, Anne, who was a dressing up fanatic so picked up the relevant skill almost as soon as she could walk.  At the age of 11 this has now moved on to what she describes as fashion.

Each morning I have to sometimes cajole, sometimes humour John into getting dressed.  This is a time-consuming and rather boring task which I would prefer for him to complete on his own.

So how do I do it?  Social story?  Dress him back to front?

Over to you.  How did you or your children with autism learn to get dressed?  It is a bit of an important life skill when you think about it.

Please use the comments section below to tell your story.  I know that there are plenty of other parents who would love your advice.

Thanks in advance.

PS In full disclosure I should say that I did mention it at his school recently.  He goes swimming on a weekly basis with his other ASD classmates.  They said that he could get dressed by himself after swimming.  But this was mainly because he was cold after getting out of the water.  This has never happened at home but it could be another of those cases of a particular situation.  Thoughts?

 

LorraineJames I have a visual sheet that I’ve made up and laminated on the wall with the morning, afternoon & evening routines. I find this assists my 6yo son to manage.  Having said that, dressing is always a challenge with clothes getting thrown all over the place, or being put on back to front/inside out. With time restrictions for school, I find that putting a time on everything helps.  We actually found that getting undressed at the end of the night was more of a challenge.  Our psychologist helped with that one.  We simply tell him now that he has 5 minutes to get dressed for bed, if he is not ready then he goes to bed exactly as he is when the time is up. Works a treat as he likes things to be done properly and hates the idea of going to bed half dressed (without his pyjamas on)

katindal Hi…I have a son who is 23 and has autism…..and i don’t think there is a cure…..I do know …however…my son has come a very long way…..and if there are any parents of older children…I would love for our kids to get to know each other…… we live in Conway,s.c. i would like to address the dress of a morning….I dressed my son every morning…I don’t remember when he finally got it…..I chose my battles……he did for a long time have to wear the same kind of jeans…always wanted a red shirt and kid tennis shoes……and if thing bothered him he would cry for hours…..sooooo I dressed him…..he had to be at school on time…he was in a regular class room……good luck…
SabrinaRaeBlessel Oh this has been an issue since day one of his first day of preschool. My son is now 8 yrs. old and we still have issue with morning routine but they are better than when we first started. What works for my family is routine, routine, routine! I have also found it easier for him to transition from one thing to the next with giving him notice in advance as to what he needs to do. Ex.( I will say while he is eating breakfast, as soon as your done eating it will be time to brush your teeth. I say that to him when I hand him his breakfast then I repeat it while he is eating and then when he is done eating.) I do this for every time it is time to move on to the next transition in the mornings. Also I have found another big distraction is the tv. Turning the tv off helps for us also.
Peggy Hood I can not stress it enough……..ROUTINE! That’s what has worked for us. My son is twelve and has a diagnosis of PDD-NOS. We have been in routine for a while now. He pulls his shoes off at the door, hangs his jacket up, dresses himself, ect. and I believe routine is the key for these autistic children. If we do something that isn’t in the normal routine he gets a little upset but not like before. Just saying what works for us!
slseiler1 ZimenaJane LauraBunderson  We all have different experiences and beliefs with autism. In my experience, my son’s symptoms were not just different, they were dangerous. Multiple interventions like Laura describes have helped my son significantly. He still has triggers, but he has learned to manage himself in most situations. I feel his autism has been healed to a large degree…and I am pleased to learn of another mom who fought not just the autism symptoms but the “advice” of medical “professionals” who insisted I should get out of denial, get used to the fact that he would never speak, never express love, never have a typical life…I didn’t accept it and I’m thankful. He’s 15 as well. In public school. Grades are decent. Socially shy, but not obvious. Great eye contact. Loving and kind. Wrestles and was undefeated last year. So…I gently disagree that “Autism is not a disease that you can “cure.” No one really knows what autism is.
ZimenaJane LauraBunderson  Autism is not a disease that you can ‘cure’ – the brain is wired differently to the way that other peoples’ brains are wired. Your son’s visible signs of autism may have diminished but he will have autism for his whole life. There is nothing wrong with it – it’s just a different way of being and people with autism need to be helped to learn how to cope with life in our society.
LauraBunderson I forgot about some of these issues I dealt with early on while I was curing my son of autism he also could barely dress himself.  Before some of his break-throughs I remember dressing him most of the time wondering if he would ever learn.  Even when he started shirts would often go on backwards as well as pants. Elastic wasted was a must. My best advice to you is  to do your research on a cure they are out there but it isn’t like taking medicine or something quick. It takes a total life change and it is hard but not as hard as the life you have ahead you or your child if you don’t do something about it now. I started when my son was 5 he is now 14 and has very little signs..this year he got his first A on an English test I was so proud. He had lots of struggles when he got well enough to put back into public schools. It is looking like next year he will no longer need an IEP at school. Don’t ever give up finding the CURE its out there but you won’t find it at your family MD for sure. God Bless you all its a tough road I know.
LauraPalazzoLuckey Hi John’s dad.  I’m a Special Education teacher and think that a Picture Board might be of help. It will serve as a reminder or task analysis, of the desired actions as well as a tangible barometer of success. The following should be set up in a grid.

Clothing                          Mon.       Tues.       Wed.        Thurs.            Fri.

Underwear

Socks

Pants

Shirt

Shoes

John can place a sticker for each piece of clothing that he puts on himself.  Make a big celebration each time.  At the end of each morning of successful independent dressing, John should get a reward. ( a few minutes of TV, computer, play time)  John and you will decide together how many stickers he should need to have gotten in order to earn a bigger reward.  ( Happy Meal, pick out Saturday night’s dinner, ect)  Eventually, you should wean John from daily rewards, but never from daily praise, with each successful independent dressing.  Every other day until a weekly reward remains as the only reinforcer.  I wish you well and congratulate you on being an obvious wonderful advocate for your son.  Laura Luckey

slseiler1 I put his clothes in the dryer. He loved the warmth. ..not too long or zippers (etc) get hot. I started w a warmed towel wrapped around him. I have also put him to sleep on clean school clothes.
TiffaneyStowe Hello everyone. I don’t have an autistic child(ren) but I am a Care Provider who works with a High Functioning Autistic 19 year old who also has Aspergers. I’ve had to help get her into a routine of getting dress and doing hygiene stuff and keeping her room clean. Of course routine, praises and rewards. Stickers can be a big deal even tho it may not seem like it.
To the parents of John, i think that if it is at all possible if maybe your son can take a shower in the morning then get dress. Since it seems he understands that he has to get dress after a shower. If that doesn’t work or can’t be done then maybe you could try something else. I’m not sure of everything that you’ve tried or how. So I don’t really want to say to much or say something you already or have done. Or offend you. But if you would like me to help further or rather help however I can. You can find me on Facebook.
Thank You for your time and the opportunity to try and help. A Loving and Caring Care Provider, Tiffaney Stowe.
kalamu We’ve only just begun to discover that our son probably has Aspergers/high functioning ASD. He is nearly 5. It is so difficult for him to focus on getting dressed in the morning as any other stimulation like talking o rtoys means he stops. If he accidently puts his socks on before his underpants he has to take them off again to put his pants on because ‘pants go first’. He sometimes has major freak outs with his buttons and I have to calm him down and talk him through it. Mornings are very time consuming and his 3 year old sister sees all of this and messes around for the attention too, she also knows how to push his buttons and set him off on a meltdown or a tangent which stops him getting dressed. Stressful is not even close! X
auzzymum You may find it helpful to have the clothes stacked and ready to put on in the order that the child needs to get dressed. Including shoes. This may be the order that the child chooses to get dressed in rather than the order you think is most appropriate and always leave the clothing in the same place every day ie the foot of the bed, beside the bed, somewhere that you can keep up even if you go on vacation or visiting sometime overnight. Consistency and order is the key. I also found this method helpful to control what my son wore because when he was left to his own devices, he choose clothing that was not always appropriate for the weather we were having. That is if he bothered to get dressed at all on his own accord. Now that he’s older (19) everyone in the neighborhood remembers him as “the kid who used to keep taking his clothes off” thankfully we lived in a small and very understanding town. Good luck.
sneedley13 I guess we tackled Connor’s issue without even realising we were doing it. He is also 7 and ASD, and gets lost in his own head quite a lot, so needs routine and bribery/reward to keep him focussed on the boring stuff. Like Sally40 ‘s son, Connor undresses and dresses in a certain order (known only to him as it changes from day to day) so when I get up in the morning, I lay out his school uniform ready to go – jumper on the bottom (as this has to be last!), underwear on the top. I always check to make sure nothing is inside out, and we have taught him to check for ‘ticket at the back’ so he knows he has put his t-shirt/trousers/jumper in the right way round. Connor knows that until he is dressed, he will not brush his teeth, and until he has brushed his teeth, he cannot have his breakfast and watch tv – we allow him to watch some tv in the morning, as this seems to take the stress out of getting ready for school for him, because it gives him time boundaries.
Sometimes I have to start work at 6am, so I have left before he wakes up, but I always make sure that I tell him the night before, so he knows I won’t be there, but I sneak in and lay out his uniform in the same way, so that the only change to the routine is that he has to go in and jump in Daddy before forgetting to brush his teeth (apparently its daddy’s fault because he doesn’t do the reminding like I do!)If he does this without fuss during the week, as a reward, on one of the weekend days (if we aren’t going out early in the morning) he is allowed to stay in his pyjamas until lunchtime, which for Connor is the best thing ever!
morag59 Hi I’m Lyndsey and I’m 24 and suffer from Aspergers Syndrome.
My mum had to deal with the same thing when I was small. Someone told her to make it fun getting dressed. It would take me so long getting ready in the morning that sometimes I would be late for school which wasn’t good. I found it boring to get dressed because I would have to do all of these rituals in order for me to put the clothes on. Even now as an adult I still have to do rituals to put on my clothes.
My mum used to make a kind of treasure map thing the night before. She would then leave items of clothing around the house according to the treasure map before she went to bed. She would draw a new treasure map each night to mix it up and be a bit more exciting. When I got up in the morning she would tell me that if I could find all of my clothes and put them on everyday then on Sunday I would get a reward. I found this exciting because I never knew what the surprise would be on Sunday. It was usually things like she would take me swimming or get me a new book to read or take me to McDonald’s. She would also keep a chart that I could see so that I knew if I was on my way to getting a reward. I really appreciated this as it gave me something to take my mind off the rituals and focus on something positive.
I’m 24 and I still have to think up ways to make it easier and quicker to put on my clothes and thanks to my mum doing that simple thing it’s so much easier to find ways to put my clothes on.
Sally40 I had a problem with my son when he was younger until i realised that he dressed himself in a set order – if something was missing (usually socks) he would not get dressed and would just sit there. He had a set routine on how he got ready for school so it was a case of everyone sticking to it. I have a friend who wrote a checklist for her son – an itemised list of what he had to do to be ready for school which he would follow.
TonyaSue I have a 7 year old that is high functioning Asperger’s.  This is an ongoing, daily task for me as well.  I have to figure out a way to get him dressed as well as his 2 younger brothers while trying to get myself ready!  There are times where he absolutely refuses to do anything.  He will just sit there and grunt.  I have tried bribing him, I have tried getting him dressed myself.  I am not sure what to do either.  His brothers see this going on and they try to do the same thing which makes my morning even harder!