Autism and Parenting Part Four – What first gave you the idea that your child might be on the autism spectrum?


Characteristics of Autism

Characteristics of Autism

A few days ago I asked this very question on our Facebook page AutismTalk. Three days later that have been over 500 responses with literally hundreds of interleaved comments. So clearly it is one of the most valuable of the conversation we have run.

Due to the , rather, transitory nature of social media we though it would be useful to keep some of the comments and use them as the basis of a discussion blog. It would be great if you could use the comment boxes at the bottom of this post to share your answer to the question “What first gave you the idea that your child might be on the autism spectrum?”.

I have covered our son’s diagnosis on this blog before. You can read John’s story here. It is worth mentioning that John was recessive and the first sign of classic autism really only became apparent when he was two. In his case this was loosing much of his ability to speak which had been pretty typical of a developing child up to that point.

Looking at our responders there seems to be a very wide range of symptoms and signs of autism.

Jade, for example shared “I had 3 children under three. My Autistic son was the middle child.
I could see the girls thriving, playing, talking, looking at me and my son did none of that.
He didn’t say his first word till he was 4 and a half, he wouldn’t and still doesn’t make eye contact, he didn’t comprehend what I was saying or asking of him. He threw some mega tantrums ( he was frustrated and trapped in his own world) He hated loud noises and bright nights. He didn’t and doesn’t like to be touched or hugged. Couldn’t stand not to have socks on, he hated the feel of the carpet, grass or sand on his feet. It was very scary for me, I was a single mum when he was diagnosed, no one in my family knew anything about Autism and their was very little support in my area. My son is almost 17 and doing amazingly”

While Tammy was brief and to the point. “No eye contact and lining up toys” In fact another of John’s early symptoms was loss of eye contact!

For Derek “Not pointing or following others point. Lack of shared enjoyment. Very little babbling. Food aversion, and dislike of food utensils in mouth. Sound & light sensitivity. Meltdowns in shopping centres! All this before 12 months. We did DIR Floortime with him and everything changed.

Now at 6 he is unrecognisable in some ways. He’s bright, bubbly, friendly (dare I say popular), polite, helpful and lovely. Still autistic, and still has many challenges, but also has amazing strengths. Don’t give up on your kids!”

“Speech was repetitive starting at around age 2, lined up his toys, and covered his ears when we sang happy birthday to him at age 2.” said Jaclyn.

Dawn mentioned our old friend “Hand flapping, toe walking, and lack of speech and eye contact at 12 mos old”.

Even some symptoms did not have an immediate impact for Dawn “No speech and only babbling at 3.5, but even then I still had my head in the sand about a diagnosis of ASD”.

Shawn was helped by her mother “My mom, she was a manager in a public school cafeteria. She saw a older child who display similar characteristics to my son who only 2 at the time. Before she uttered it 11 yrs ago I had never even heard of the word! May she rest in peace. u mom & thx for everything.”

” I knew absolutely nothing about autism but my daughter always seemed different. She had no interest in learning, words came and went, some people asked me if she was deaf, she loved to spend hours throwing things over things, and she just always seemed to live in her own little world. I’m very grateful that I have always been included in her little world even though most are not.” mentioned Dixie.

Calre some was spotted by “A health professional from our schools team when I tried to get my boy some counselling help for his ‘outbursts’ or ‘meltdowns’. She recognised it, talked it through with me about making an assessment referral and all the pieces fell into place. My handsome young man was diagnosed as high functioning autistic just before his 11th birthday. Strangely, it’s made life easier :))). Maybe that’s because we all understand a little bit more each day x”

While there are many many more I would like to end with Christine’s moving post “This might sound kind of weird – but I knew from the first day that my daughter was different. My daughter always seemed so far away and “wise” compared to other babies. She scared away the little old ladies looking into the pram or into her crib at home, trying to catch her attention by just looking through them very seriously. She didn’t crawl but on her first birthday she started shuffeling around on her bottom and didn’t try to stand up before she was 19 months old but then all of sudden she stood up and walked without falling even once. She always talked to her cats and dogs more than she did to other people. As a child she didn’t talk to strangers at all, even if these strangers were her teachers. My daughter is 19 today, she has Asperger’s and her “therapy” are our family animals (cats, dogs, chickens, horses) and she works at a horse farm, training young horses and even drives visitors around with a horse-drawn carriage with two horses. In that surrounding she can even talk to the people on her carriage and engage in conversation with strangers. 12 years of school resp. college were very hard and stressful, although she never lacked intelligence – until a little more than a year ago she decided, that she didn’t want to go to University but only work with horses. So she quit school and took on an apprenticeship on that horse farm… Our children on the spectrum are challenged, we are challenged to guide them into their lives – and they teach us and other people around them so much “.

So over to you. What was the first thing that made you think that your child was on the spectrum. It would be great if you could add your comments to the comments box below.

Thanks very much in advance.

 

BrittanyHayden My son is almost 18 months, with an appointment later this month to be tested for Autism… he was low birthweight (5 15) at birth, and had IUGR. He was “normal” for about the first year of his life except he made his milestones later than normal. By his first birthday, he could say two words. In between then and now, he lost those two words, gained three more and is halfway losing one more. One of the words he learned around 16-18 months was “donald duck” which he got from tv, not me. His head is too large for his weight and height. He won’t eat alot of foods. When we were at his appointment in July, before they referred him to EI, he was spinning on the floor on his butt over and over flapping his hands. He can’t walk at all, can only stand for a few seconds. He can’t climb anything like furniture. He doesn’t respond to his name about 50% of the time sometimes more, and has a blank look on his face. He stares at walls, or things. He will play with the same thing or play the same song over and over again. He will open and close doors. If a door is open, he HAS to close it. He has alot of sleep problems. He will not sleep without a pacifier. He will not get through the day without a pacifier. He gets over stimulated. He bangs his head against the wall. He bites people. He will let someone pick him up and smile at them to get them to pick him up, but when they do, he will not make eye contact. He will only say the few words he knows if you ask him to… so basically he is just copying those 2-3 words. He eats pretty good, but only wants to eat maybe once or twice a day, otherwise he will throw the food and not eat it. He is terrified of a vacuum, dogs barking… he hates hearing babies cry esp newborns. He throws his toys… I mean he throws them more than playing with them. I don’t think he has the motor skills to line things up so he throws stuff. It doesn’t matter if he hits you or not, he doesn’t care. He plays with keys, remotes, phones, the buckles on his highchair, swing, etc. He shakes his head a lot. He doesn’t understand “no”. He will NOT say anymore words then the words he has. We’ve tried. He is aggressive, he will slap you in the face, he will bite, pinch, scratch you.
He has GI problems. He will get over stimulated when playing and will start stimming (flapping his hands and arms over and over). I got the M-CHART-R, the 18 month questionnaire and the other questionnaire in yesterday and filled them out, and on the M-CHART he scored AT RISK FOR AUTISM. On the 18 month questionnaire, he scored in the black area for everything except fine motor. So, basically he needs help with communication (scored 5 out of 60) gross motor (scored 5 out of 60) personal-social (scored 25 out of 60) and problem solving, he scored 20 out of 60. He has a lot of the problems they ask about on the other questionnaire. He doesn’t play with any children but his sister… he will get excited to see them but won’t play with them or talk to them except babble. He doesn’t understand most simple commands. When I point at something, he won’t look at it.if anyone can help, please email me at brittany_hayden@ymail.com or I am on Facebook. Thanks.
Shawnamj We are waiting for our appointment with the developmental pediatrician for my son’s evaluation. In the meantime el is coming out and working with him starting in two weeks. Gage turned two in August and there have been several signs early on. I had Gage later in life (at 36) and was never really around other children to know any different. He was my first diaper change and everything baby related. He never responded to his name. I questioned it but I was told maybe hes distracted or he will eventually come around.He hit all his milestones on time. He said mama, Dada, bye,up and would wave goodbye. He wouldn’t look when I pointed at things but I never really thought anything about it. Hes always had good eye contact and loves being around people especially kids. Around 18 months when his brother was born he stopped talking and using silverware. He will only eat certain foods and gags when I try to introduce something new. He teeth grinds all day long and can jump for hours screeching and babbling. He gives hugs and affection on his terms and time but that makes it all the more sweeter. I see improvements, he starting to come around with his 7 month old brother by kissing him on the head or bringing him toys. Im just ready to start the journey of learning how to help him the best I can.
ButterflyMomma With my oldest son, now 10, the signs weren’t as obvious.  He did the arm flapping, was slow to talk (around 2 years old), and doesn’t make great eye contact (but not so little as to really get your attention).  He did circles when talking excitedly and struggles to understand why some kids tease or bully him.  He was diagnosed in 2nd grade, when his amazing teacher recommended it.  I was in denial from the start, so was my husband and my Mom.  Over the last three years though, I’ve begun to accept and support his diagnosis.  He receives therapy through the school and has blossomed because of it.  Now, we are having our twins examined because at almost two years old, both are nonverbal, doing circles, heavily sensory, and stare off into space with little to no eye contact.  At least this time around, I feel prepared.
ClaudiaGabrielaMiller Many tantrums. Walked at 8 1/2 months. Food sensitivity. Could not hold him in arms like regular babies as far as.I can remember he wiggled into upright position not laying down. Threw up frequently because he would often over eat. Freakishly strong as.a.toddler. Piled or lined up toys for long periods of time. If.tbey fell or.moved.would have a meltdown and then go back to task. Walks a little hunched. Flaps.hands. he is 11 1/2 and still.wets bed. So of.course now we.can.go on and on about different behavior
KimberlynCanga Going to my son’a 18 month check receiving the MCHAT to fill out and realizing I was checking off mostly No’s… I said to my fiancé , I think we need to ask the doctor if we should worry..? I asked the doctor and he reassured me Mason looks fine I shouldn’t worry….2 came and he wasn’t really saying much, making noises instead of pointing when he wanted something.. It became so routine we knew what he wanted so we didn’t really push him to “use his words” I continued to observe him and noticed little quirks like staring for long seconds or even up to a minute, getting dressed. Finger tapping on hiis chest, not making direct eye contact then 3 came an d he still was at 2-3 word sentences so I moved/called around and got him Iin to get assessed by a specialist I had to wait almost 6 months to see the specialist finally at age 4 he was diagnosed with ASD… My Mason is wonderful, smart, unique,lovable, also very popular and getting his speech therapy 2 times a week..
JessicaWebster1 My 2nd son hit 2 and a half and was still completely non-verbal. He ran around in circles a lot. Had huge “tantrums” all the time. We didn’t think much of it, especially as we knew nothing about autism. I watched that movie “Adam” one night and despite the significant differences due to age, the similarities in minor nuances blew me away. So I asked my mother-in-law what she thought (I am very close to her and value her opinion) and she agreed with my husband and I that we should take him to see someone. He was always the odd one. Never played with other kids. No eye contact. A little OCD and some other stuff that I just can’t really explain, but clearly made him different to my other children. In the weeks between making the pediatrician appointment, and actually going he “crashed” really bad and the signs were extremely noticeable by then.

The voice of the heart: An autism science fiction story by Oné Pagán. Find out more at our latest guest post!



The voice of the heart - O R Pagan

The voice of the heart – O R Pagan

As many of you know we are currently running a series of blog posts on Autism and Parenting. While not formally part of this series we are delighted to share this guest post from O R Pagan on the book he wrote a short story from the perspective of a father of a young man with autism.

Oné Pagán writes “People wear many “hats” during their lifetimes. The main hats that I wear in my life right now are husband, father, scientist, and professor. My role in life as a father is an important factor that inspired me to write this story. Autism is another factor. I suspect that I do not have to tell you what autism is. At any rate, there is more than enough information available so I will not talk to you about it.

Rather, in this short story I am trying to express my feelings as the father of a young man with autism and how far I would go to make sure that he is taken care of when I am not around.

Like any parent, I want to see my children happy, with lives of their own. Sadly, when you have a child with a disability, this dream of independence is oftentimes not an option. A virtually universal worry of any parent of such a child is what is going to happen when we are no longer able to take care of them. What would be of my child? Will others treat him well? Will he be safe and respected? Quite frankly, these questions terrify me and oftentimes keep me awake at night.
The main character in this story lives in a point in time when he has the means and the technology to make sure that his child is protected throughout his whole life. A dad can dream, right?

I, for one, would do what my protagonist did in a split second.

Would you? How far would you go to take care of your precious child?”

You can buy the story on Amazon here.

You can check out Oné Pagán’s blog here for more background on his life and scientific work at the, rather splendidly named, Bald Scientist Blog.


Autism and Parenting Part Three – How do parents deal with family members not accepting your child has autism?

Autism and acceptance

Autism and acceptance

A couple of days ago Jenna asked the following really useful question on our discussion group AutismTalk. The ensuing discussion was so useful I thought it would be great to share it with you guys in a blog post as part of our Autism and Parenting series.

She asked “How do parents deal with family members not accepting your child has HF autism? How do you deal with family members not understanding your childs different sensory needs or when the are having a melt down – not just a tantrum and “need a good smack, or she is just tired” any advice would be great”.

Check out the replies and see if you agree!

“Limit interaction with them as much as possible. They will stress you out, upset you and its not worth the hassle. So Sorry. I’ve found the more you attempt to explain, the more in denial or defensive they get. Its not your problem its theirs.” was Victoria’s tough approach!

Linda’s comment was great “They’re denial is not your problem. ‘sorry you don’t understand, we’ll just go home.’ And go. No arguing, or anger..just facts. And then, hug your kid super hard.” Hugs are good!

Chantel and many other support education ” I have 3 children. With disabilitys 2 of them with asd and has been a long road I had a lot of issues people not understanding people telling me to put a leash on my kids before knowing some of my family members thinking my kids are too hard I just got autisim Queensland to send me info cards out and every time someone had a issue with my kids I would give them a card I have no time for people not excepting my kids or blaming me for my kids special needs my kids are my first priority and if people Can’t see just how special your kids are there not worth the time of day”

Or just ignore them was Alysha’s suggestion “I have learned to just let people’s opinions go in 1 ear and out the other. Or some don’t bother at all, my son doesn’t have autism but was diagnosed with fragile X syndrome 3 years ago. And I have told plenty of people that if they don’t feel the need to get know my child that’s fine he has enough live and support from his mom and dad!”

Rachel is upbeat “It takes time!!!! That’s all I can say. It’s been about a year now and they are just now comfortable saying he has it without saying well if he does have it. My son is very high functioning and last yeat was non verbal at the time of diagnosis. He has definitely bloomed over the year! My family even went on a autism speaks walk! Just keep doing what’s best. You don’t have to convince anyone!”

Of course there were many more but these are a few highlights.

It would be great if you could use the comments box below to share your suggestions!

Autism and Parenting Part Two – Unwanted Advice. How do you respond?

Advice for autism parents

Advice for autism parents

A few days ago Barbara posted the following question on our Facebook page AutismTalk. She asked “Why is it that people who’ve never actually met/dealt with someone with autism are the only ones that go to autism message boards/videos/sites and try to correct or lecture parents, teachers, and others that see and work with autism all the time? Am I the only one bothered by this? … “My friend/co-worker has a child with autism so I’m going to lecture you now.” Ooh. It’s like nails on a chalkboard.”

Granted lots of people who talked about autism online are, of course, members of the ASD community there is rather a large kernel of truth in her comments and certainly it is an excellent question. Indeed we thought it would be useful to have it as a discussion blog as part of our “Autism and Parenting” series.

The aim of this blog post is to share some of the responses we received to Barbara’s question and also to give our other readers and opportunity to give their suggestions or indeed just vent!

“My favourite – your child is so belligerent – no he’s autistic please learn the difference!” from Shaneen clearly struck a cord with many of our readers!

As did Nikki’s “Some people get it most don’t! My favourite comment “well he looks normal! ” oh sorry are they suppose to have a sign on their fore heads or something!!! The latest one ive got from a member of the family is “he’s growing out of what ever he had before I think hes correcting his behaviours so he doesn’t have it now! ” (my son has aspergers and dyslexia and adhd). Yay hes cured then…..? Are they real?”

Holly got some real rubbish from a healthcare professional “Lol. I love how a psychiatrist tells me what to do with my son. And she has no kids. Only book knowledge. Today she told me to take him to the ER for a meltdown. Umm. Lady that’s not the answer. He’s 13. And I know what I’m doing. Just get him a counselor like I’ve requested five times. His old Dr moved to England. He had kids. He understood. I called her boss and said I’m done. New Dr time. Give me someone that doesn’t fear Autism. That’s what frustrated me. She acted afraid of him. He would raise his voice and she would tense up. Umm your a psychiatrist. More training needed. Of course he raised his voice. You asked questions about abuse he received from school. Duh.”

Chris was stoical in his approach “You just have to learn to let it wash past you…… Nobody really knows it unless they live it..”

Kelly shares “my fav is actually “I work/ed with them, I know what ur talking about but ur wrong” so what you spend an hr at a time with any one child and you go home and sleep? talk to me when you havent slept much for a month or more and have been screamed at for making the pb+j in the wrong order, or you ran out of the fav food (even though you offered to run out and get more right now)”

Juliah has been told something my wife and I were told ” I see a lot of “autism didn’t exist 50 years ago so its just an easy excuse for bad parenting!” Obviously they’re uneducated because autism has been “around” for over 100 years! Also many parents of asd children also have children not on the spectrum and the behaviours are so different. Surely if we are bad parents all of our children would “misbehave”? I dont really blame people with no experience of an autistic child for their ignorance, because before our children were diagnosed werent we equally ignorant? If I saw a child screaming at its parent because it couldnt have something it wanted, or heard that a child in one of my childrens classes had behaved in an awful manner, I would have just presumed they were naughty, spoilt, needed a bit of discipline (not violence btw) never really thinking that there may be other issues going on. Schools do not inform parents which children are autistic, adhd, have a problematic homelife etc and which arent. So when someone had picked on your autistic child we may just presume they are a nasty child when actually, they may have struggles of their own. I know ive rambled on a bit but the point im trying to make is noone is educated in everything and we will all, at some time or another, judge a person even though we dont know what their story is. I really dont mind what people say any more, as I know the truth. My boy has such struggles to face each and every day, but he is the most loving, affectionate, comical, clever, amazing little boy. People may judge because he has been violent and say its my fault, but only my family has gone through this struggle, only we know all the efforts we have gone to to get the best for, and out of our child. NOONE ELSE MATTERS!!!!”

But for Patti it has been a nightmare “I have a daughter that is 24 and having alot of problems right now she was aggressive now she on meds still has melted downs a few times a day. The neighbors dont like us they called cys , health board and now we have to move out we rent. The one neighbor told us that all of them cant believe that we are keeping her instead of putting her away, really need friends that understand thanks”

Della says “My personal favorite: “They just need a good whack on the bottom”. Since my child had massive sensory overload in all of his senses and can only wear certain materials and can’t stand going barefoot outside, I’m sure a nice stinging whack isn’t really going to solve a meltdown. If possible, make sure they are in a safe place and let them have a melt down. This worked for my child and may not work for someone else s but he has learned how to self-regulate and as a young teenager he rarely has meltdowns.”

So what has been your most irritating bit of advice about autism? How did you respond? What did would you suggest to others told some utter rubbish.

You can share in the comments section below.

Thanks very much in advance!

Autism and Parenting Part 1- Telling your child they have autism. What did you do? Read some parents stories here

How to tell your child they have autism

How to tell your child they have autism

One of the reasons for running this blog and our Facebook page AutismTalk is to help my wife and I get advice from others in the autism community.

That being said there are some issues which we have coped with by accident. One of these is the whole area of telling a child with ASD they they are, in fact, on the spectrum.

In the case of our son John there was no real plan. He was two when he went through the diagnostic process and was normally present when we were talking to his older sister about it.

Do there was not a moment when he was told by us it just sort of happened. Indeed nowadays he explains to people that he is autistic (the word he uses) in a very matter of fact way. Actually he also uses it as a way of explaining his antics. “I can’t do that because I’m autistic”. “I’m autistic so you can’t tell me off”. “Are you sure autistic people have to go to school?”. That sort of thing!

No in retrospect i wonder if we should not have told him more formally. Though I’m not convinced it would make a huge difference. People with autism seem to be much more relaxed about it (the ASD diagnosis) than some of the people around.

We looked at this area a few months ago when we ran a poll asking “At what age did you tell your child or were you told you or they had autism or ASD?”. Now we what to explore this area how to tell your child they have autism in bit more detail.

The aim of this blog is to give our readers in the autism community an opportunity to share their stories of telling their child/children that they were on the autism spectrum.

Hopefully this will give others in a similar situation some “hints” and ideas of how to do it.

Anything you want to share will be of great interest to our readers but you might like to consider some of the following questions:-

1) Have you told your child that they are on the autistic spectrum?
2) How did you tell them and at what age were they?
3) How did they react?
4) Would you do it differently if you did it again?
5) If you decided not to share with your child can you tell us why?

Please use the comment boxes below to tell us your story.

Many thanks in advance!

 

hopeandbubs My daughter is now six, she is a twin. She was officially diagnosed at age 5 but I knew she was autistic by the age of 2.  She is verbal but socially not capable as her peers.  She attends kindergarten but with constant adult supervision. Her younger brother (age 3) will likely also be diagnosed. Because they have a 6 year old sister that has had to sit on the sidelines while they have required my full attention or our daily lives ruled by what they can tolerate I felt it necessary to begin acknowledging their challenges in terms they can comprehend.  Things like: “your brother/sister get mad/upset a lot I know”, or “they don’t understand things well like you do or other kids do”, or “its hard for them sometimes because their brain doesn’t work the same way”.  Likewise as my six year old ages I discuss her challenges in terms she can comprehend such as “I know thats really hard for you” and “you have to let people know that you need help when that happens” etc.  I feel it’s necessary so that they all feel comfortable enough to discuss their feelings about it and to be able to articulate to me and to others when they require support and in what way and that there is nothing wrong or abnormal about us.
VickieFerrisDeVries TinaCooper I would recommend the book, “Aspergers, What Does It Mean To Me?” or “Autism, What Does It Mean To Me?” These are workbooks that help the child/person understand why they do the things they do. How having an ASD affects them. They are available on Amazon.
VickieFerrisDeVries Our son is 24 with moderate to severe autism, as well as having an intellectual disability. When he started noticing that he was different from other people is when we told him. He would make comments, such as, “Am I an idiot?” “Am I weird?” etc… This has been years ago that we told him. He doesn’t quite know what having autism means, so we talk about how the autism effects him… sensitive hearing, his thoughts getting “stuck” on things, etc… I do think kids should be told, (they are more aware than we realize!)  but in a natural way where it’s just part of the conversation.
TamaraHowarth Like you, my son was diagnosed young (3) and was there throughout the processes/discussions.  We have a book to help his little sister understand and he’s obviously seen/heard/read that too.  About 6m ago (aged 8) he asked me out of the blue ‘What is Autistic?’.  I explained that we’re all different and some people’s brains work differently to others , that there’s no right or wrong, good or bad, just different.  He asked if he had autism and I simply said yes, but that’s not a bad thing, it just means you’re a little bit different to some other people.  Then he asked if he would always have it and I explained yes and he got a little bit upset until he asked if I had it and I  told him I think we’re all a little bit autistic and that’s what makes our family so special.  Then he seemed happy, we had cuddles and he’s not mentioned it since.
TinaCooper I haven’t told my son. He is 9 and was diagnosed last year. I have reservations about telling him. I don’t want him to use it as an excuse. But I feel guilty about keeping this information about him from him. I would love to hear how other parents have told their child

 
patienttalk PatriciaRobinson How old is your son out of interest?
PatriciaRobinson No, I haven’t directly told my son I treat him like he is a normal kid but with extra patience………