Today we’ll be talking about Chronic pain and how your nervous system can get stuck in a feedback loop where you can make your pain or anxiety worse without realizing it. So today I’ve invited a guest, Celine Tien, the principal investigator on NIH backed trials studying chronic pain management and opioid use reduction Celine graduated with distinction from Yale and also worked with DreamWorks. And she’s the founder of Flowly- an NIH backed app that is designed for chronic pain, anxiety and sleep management