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UCLA Scientists Discover Important Clues Related to Causes for Autism

Xinshu (Grace) Xiao, Dr. Daniel Geschwind

Reed Hutchinson/UCLAThe research of UCLA professors Xinshu (Grace) Xiao, Dr. Daniel Geschwind and their team is the first comprehensive study of RNA editing in autism spectrum disorder.

Ateam of UCLA-led scientists has discovered important clues to what goes wrong in the brains of people with autism — a developmental disorder with no cure and for which scientists have no deep understanding of what causes it.

The new insights involve RNA editing — in which genetic material is normal, but modifications in RNA alter nucleotides, whose patterns carry the data required for constructing proteins.

“RNA editing is probably having a substantial physiologic effect in the brain, but is poorly understood,” said co-author Dr. Daniel Geschwind, UCLA’s Gordon and Virginia MacDonald distinguished professor of human genetics, neurology and psychiatry and director of UCLA’s Institute for Precision Health. “RNA editing is a mysterious area whose biological implications have not been much explored. We know what only a handful of these RNA editing sites do to proteins. This study gives a new critical clue in understanding what has gone awry in the brains of autism patients.”

More than 24 million people worldwide are estimated to have autism. In developed countries, about 1.5 percent of children have been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder as of 2017. The disorder affects communication and behavior, and is marked by problems in social communication and social interaction, and repetitive behaviors.

“We need to understand how a panoply of genetic and environmental factors converges to cause autism,” Geschwind said. “RNA editing is an important piece of the autism puzzle that has been totally under-appreciated.”

The researchers analyzed brain samples from 69 people who died, about half of whom had autism spectrum disorder (which includes autism and related conditions), and about half of whom did not and served as a control group.

Xinshu (Grace) Xiao, the senior author of the research and UCLA’s Maria R. Ross professor of integrative biology and physiology, and her research team analyzed seven billion nucleotides for each brain sample.

Reed Hutchinson/UCLA
Stephen Tran

Xiao’s team discovered reduced editing in the group members with autism. Specifically, they identified 3,314 editing sites in the brain’s frontal cortex in which the autism patients had different levels of RNA editing from the control group. In 2,308 of those sites, the individuals with autism had reduced RNA editing, said lead author Stephen Tran, a graduate student in UCLA’s bioinformatics interdepartmental program who works in Xiao’s laboratory. In the 1,006 others, they had increased levels of RNA editing, he added.

In the brain’s temporal cortex, the people with autism had different levels of RNA editing from the control group in 2,412 editing sites, with 1,471 of those sites showing reduced editing levels, Tran said. In the brain’s cerebellum, the autism group members had different levels of RNA editing from control group members in 4,340 sites, of which 3,330 sites in the autistic brain had decreased levels. All three of these brain regions are very important in autism.

The research, published in the journal Nature Neuroscience, is the first comprehensive study of RNA editing in autism spectrum disorder.

Xiao said RNA editing can be thought of as RNA mutations, analogous to the DNA mutations that are linked to many diseases.

“The same piece of DNA can generate multiple versions of RNA, and possibly lead to different protein sequences,” said Xiao, director of UCLA’s bioinformatics interdepartmental graduate program. “RNA editing allows cells to create novel protein sequences that are not written in the DNA.”

Scientists had long assumed that a sequence of RNA is a faithful copy of a gene’s DNA sequence — and that RNA is merely the cellular messenger that carries out DNA’s instructions to other parts of the cell. “This assumption was proved to be wrong when RNA editing was first discovered in the 1980s,” Xiao said, “and we are finding many examples where the genetic codes we inherit from our parents are edited in our cells.”

In another major finding, the researchers identified two proteins, called FMRP and FXR1P, that regulate abnormal RNA editing in autism spectrum disorder. FMRP increases RNA editing and FXR1P decreases RNA editing, Tran discovered. The autism group had reduced editing levels regulated by FMRP, as well as reduced RNA editing overall.

“This is the first strong data showing a broad and direct functional role for FMRP and FXR1P in the human brain and autism,” Xiao said.

“Something about what FMRP does is clearly critical to autism pathogenesis,” Geschwind said. “Grace and her team show that these two related proteins are likely responsible for the reduced RNA editing, as well as the occasional increased RNA editing.”

It is currently unknown, he said, whether the changes the people with autism had in RNA editing caused their autism, contributed to the disorder or were a result of it. “We can’t assign causality,” said Geschwind, who praised the research of Xiao’s team as “elegant and brilliant.”

RNA editing may also be disrupted in schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and major depression. The research team plans to continue to study this as well as other brain diseases.

Xiao and Tran replicated their findings by analyzing the frontal cortex from a different group of 22 people who had autism spectrum disorder and a control group of 23 without the disorder. They found the same pattern of editing reduction as they found originally, Tran said.

The researchers found RNA editing alterations in genes of critical neurological relevance to autism, including CNTNAP2 and CNTNAP4, NRXN1 and NRXN3, ANK2NOVA1 and RBFOX1.

Xiao and Tran used powerful methods of bioinformatics and statistics to identify the RNA editing sites, including a method similar to GIREMI that Xiao designed in 2015 with Qing Zhang, a former postdoctoral scholar in her laboratory.

In searching for causes of diseases, most research has focused on searching for mutations in the DNA. “What was missing, until recently,” Xiao said, “is to look for RNA mutations that are not coded in the DNA. These changes in the RNA could have similar impact as DNA mutations.”

This study may eventually lead to new treatments for autism, but likely not for many years, the researchers said.

Other co-authors are listed in the journal article.

Funding sources for the research include the National Human Genome Research Institute, National Institute of Mental Health (both institutes are part of the National Institutes of Health) and the Simons Foundation Autism Research Initiative.

Autism Talk News Flash – Possible high exposure to male hormones can lead to ASD in males.


A boy who developed autism

A boy who developed autism

So suggests some recent research from form the UK’s University of Cambridge. Dr Michael Lombardo and Prof Simon Baron-Cohen have conducted research which suggest that high exposure to testosterone ( and some other hormones) in the womb can lead to a diagnosis of ASD in later life. However this applies to boys rather than girls.

According to Baron-Cohen this is one of the first non genetic markers which has been so far identified.

But this does not mean that presence of these hormones will provide a pre-natal teat for autism or will blocking these hormones lead prevent the development of autism. The hormones are necessary for the development of a healthy foetus.

You can read up on the research in more detail at the BBC web site here.


What causes autism? What this amazing film, called Unlocking Autism, about new research into the causes of autism and ASD!



Unlocking Autism

Unlocking Autism

Claude is profoundly autistic. His mother Dr Rosamund Hill is a neurologist working on a new research project to uncover the genetic causes of autism. This fascinating documentary follows their story.

You can watch this fascinating video from AttitudeLive of New Zealand here


Autism- what do you think might be the causes of ASD? Please take our poll and join in our discussion blog!


I support Autism Awareness

I support Autism Awareness

I know that your many of us in the autism community this can be a very controversial question.

What actually causes ASD?

So far the jury is “out” in terms of an official explanation but that does not stop a number of different theories being shared.

Obviously this is a “hot button” subject for many people but we thought a discussion could prove of value.  Because of this we would ask you to remain both polite and charitable if you join in the discussion about the causes of autism in the comments box below.

In the first instance it would be great if you could take part in our poll on the causes of autism below,  Secondly it would be great if you could share more using the comments box below.

We are very keen to hear you opinions.

Many thanks.



Autism and vaccinations! Could autism be caused by vaccines? Have your say at our poll! And check on the discussion!

Autism Awareness

Autism Awareness

The debate about vaccinations and autism has been raging for over a decade now.  It is a highly contentious issue with very strong feelings on both sides.

We would like to take a “snapshot”  of the current views of our readers on the subject.  To this end we have created a poll which we would ask you to take – which you can find at the end of this post.


If you wish you can use the comments section to expand on your views and thinking in more detail.  That being said we do ask that you treat the views of others with respect and be charitable to comments that you may not agree with.

Many thanks in advance

SpeaksAspergian I was diagnosed with Asperger’s/autism when I was 58 years old.  I am a geneticist and a conservation biologist.  I would love to say more about myself, but I come to this conversation not even knowing what phrases are acceptable. I come to a community that I wish would accept my differences, because I honestly do not understand the politics of how we are supposed to talk about autism.

ALL that being said, I would like to write a wee bit about the genetics, so that we are clear on what is known, which is far from enough. I apologize in advance if my phraseology is politically incorrect, but my limitation is this: I try to be pc, but I am hardwired to communicate in my way.

There are clearly, and understandably, misunderstandings in genetics which I have noticed in the comments.  Here is some big picture stuff:  Autism falls into the category of “quantitative” genetics. This means that there are many, many genes involved, each with a small effect, each with a small contribution to the whole “phenotype” that we call autism.  (I use the neutral scientific term “phenotype” instead of disease or syndrome, even though I believe that these other terms may be used correctly in appropriate context.)  What this means is that autism is NOT like cystic fibrosis or sickle cell anemia, which are human diseases caused by a mutation in a single gene.  Autism is literally based on a spectrum of genes, many, many genes. I cannot stress enough that many genes are involved and that we need much more scientific research.
According to statistics, autism has a substantial genetic basis AND is influenced by environment.  Both are important.  Here’s a personal example:

I was conceived in a little house beside a golf course in the 1950’s (read: pesticides without modern controls).  Because I am the first person in my family “with autism” (sorry to those who dislike the “with” phrase), and because biological development is altered in autism, I have asked, could those chemical toxins that my mother may have breathed over 9 months TIPPED my genetic cart (the genes that were there already in me) in such a way that I developed Asperger’s?  Maybe and maybe not. This question cannot yet be answered.  We don’t know because it is possible that my Asperger’s (may I speak it this way?) would have developed anyway!  Many little genes of small effects can together make a big effect.

What about vaccines?  I have not read the actual clinical trials, but I accept the reported result that there is not a statistical link. This does not mean that I don’t think there is something else in our environment TIPPING THE CART for many people.  We are all carrying genes that matter in autism.

I say this because of the very sophisticated “genetic architecture” of autism.  Autism as a phenotype may be a modern syndrome, but its genetics have evolved in our human population over a very, very long period of time.  We need research as well as _______(the pc word for treatment … anybody?).

My hope is to help bring the science of autism genetics to the people.  This is certainly not an easy task, not only because to render that science accessible will take much work, but because I am not wired to be politically correct.  My hope is that the controversies, protests and boycotts will give way to a unified research front going forward.  My hope is that readers will accept my limitation in how I use language, and let me write about genetics  for the general public without criticizing my Aspie inability (am I wrong to use ‘inability’?) to use language phrases that are not my own.

Thanks to all who read and accommodate my language. Thanks to my Creator, that I can write, for my identity is in my soul, not my “autism”.

MarkAllen2 EliCabelly amandapowell1 klhembree diseases are coming back because the vaccines contain LIVE viruses that …….. wait for it………SHED……….thats why the outbreak in canada last year was directly linked back to a vaxed kid………..herd immunity???? what about china……they have almost 100% and they are still getting outbreaks???? you are one to talk calling people uneducated……….you should realise that when you point the finger at someone there are 3 fingers pointing at you 😉
MarkAllen2 EliCabelly klhembree once again no citation for your dribble eli
MarkAllen2 EliCabelly GinaGeer you keep bleeting the same talking point eli…….put up some evidence for your content or shut up…..ffs what are you a big pharma or govt troll??? you know how i know your full of crap???? because courts in the US and Italy have RULED that there is a connection but the govenments have sealed the cases so the public cannot get the damn evidence in the public domain ………. vaccines are neither safe nor effective and i bet you can’t find us a study to disprove that statement 😉
MarkAllen2 HeatherSaggers please do the history…….these so called deadly (media fearmongering) diseases were already in decline of 80-90% BEFORE their various vaccines even came into play…….something the media and establishment always forget to mention……also in the US…….whats doing more harm to our children……measles or the mmr vaccine??? in the last 10 years how many measles deaths??? compare that the mmr vaccine related deaths over the same period???? the tv (a.k.a propaganda box)  does not always give you the truth………..enough said 😉
MarkAllen2 MissyAvey it does if they are directly exposed to the toxics in their environment……swallowing paint might do it, or even a tube of fluoride toothpaste or mercury from a broken power saving lightbulb, pesticides/round-up…..theres tonnes of crap in our childrens environments now – a lot more than 50+ years ago…….before the fda and epa started rubber stamping everything……..do you actually think parents watch their kids brush their teeth 100% of the time? what does it say on the toothpaste packaging if swallowed in the US??? Contact the POISON CENTER and lets keep in mind and in perspective………how many unvaxed kids have autism? maybe 1 in 25,000 compared to the 1 in 50 in the vaxed lot?  dont take mine or anyone elses opinions as gospel – but do keep an open mind and dont buy into the medical establishment……they don’t profit of healthy people do they?
MarkAllen2 Donna Loveless totally agree donna…….the spectrum is so broad now that it has become near impossible to pin point a direct cause…… what i don’t buy into is the government (new zealand) saying that the majority of autism is genetical…….this is a straight out lie, genetics at most only accounts for no more than 30%, the birthing process between 5& & 15% ……. that means that anywhere between 55% & 65% is environmental!!!  Vaccines can and has caused autism, this has been verified in both US and Italian Courts where the Judges have ruled just that – the fact that the government then seals the case so the public cannot get access to the evidence, to me, is their submission of the FACT!  However, like i said before, the spectrum is now so broad – and basically each case and child is different/unique – to me the environmental factors explains the rest………..toxics/poisons such as pesticides, herbicides, fluoridated water, lead, mercury, aluminium. round-up, lead, arsenic, etc etc the list goes on and on which to me, at least, accounts for the wide variety of symptoms that fall on the spectrum……….my personal experince with one of my boys (and only 1, the middle of 5) tells me that it was his vaccine that triggered/caused his autism……i have home video of him 3-4 months before his shot………..alert, verbal, responsive……..i even have a plunket nurse report stating that she had ZERO concerns about is ‘development’ just 1 month prior to his shot…………it was a very slow regression for my son, being with him everyday i wasnt the one to notice and raise the alarm bells…..rather it was my mother who visits every school holiday, every 3 months that noticed……the rest is history and the only benefit for my family is that this woke me the f%$k up and i now question EVERYTHING and if my question dont get answered i simply do not CONSENT to ANY medical/government/authority and NEVER WILL!  My family – My choice
chellerae77 Both of my daughters were vaccinated. Same doctor. Same clinic. Same vaccines. One daughter, no problems. My other daughter, diagnosed with Autism. I’ve done so much reading on the vaccine/autism debate. However in my opinion, I have proof right in front of me of no link. Autism is not a disease to be “cured”. It a developmental/personality disorder that occurs in utero. Yeah I think genetics plays a big part in it too. Lots of Autism diagnosis in my family. Maternal and paternal. My daughter knows the diagnosis doesn’t change a thing about her. She knows she’s perfect who she is. I just don’t see any legitimate proof to the link. But I do not ever claim to be an expert. This is all just MY opinion.
thisHillfamilyisAusome Shelly you have been misinformed! You should read up on blood born pathogens. Hep B can survive on most surfaces for at least 7 days. Anytime a person/child comes in contact with infected blood the risk is present. Yes, sex and sharing needles…….. Also sharing razors, toothbrushes, open sores, pricks from infected needles, instruments ect.
escentiallife amandapowell1
yes finally you got it right …. You are GUESSING
I could see why the idea came about because of when you notice the autism but you can’t go around deciding reality by guess. my nephew was claimed to have come down with the autism after his 4-6 month shots but I told them at birth he was autistic duh! not our fault no one can see it.
escentiallife amandapowell1
no vaccines in my ancestors or myself, so why do most of us have autism? my children were vaccinated but not at birth and that is when the autism was obvious to their autistic mother (diagnosed at age2) My grandchildren got all the nasty crap like HepB and they are past age 3 with NO SIGNS of autism. anecdotes are not science but I will never believe the damage done by the vaccines is autism. there could a link because autistics tend to be more sensitive to and unable to detoxify as well as the allistic. I am for spacing out the vaccines for autistics and a couple I am against but it has nothing to do with autism. that is ridiculous!
escentiallife amandapowell1
apparently …. according to you!
I CAN’T BE METPMSL
patienttalk ShelleyTzorfas Sorry I don’t quite understand what you are saying.  Could you explain please?

ShelleyTzorfas WE watched in horror as towns that never had Autism before had a child or 2 suddenly Autistic because the US passed a law blocking Your right to sue a vaccine maker in regular court and kids went from a few vaccines to more than 80. 1991 hit hard -it was the year they began vaccinating NEWBORNS for a  disease they could not get-Hep B, a mad science experiment as it is spread by sex or IV drug (Sharing) use.

This controversy among the pharma/med industry did NOT begin a decade ago- It began in 1991-some say the 1980’s. In the meantime if you really want kids to recover;http://www.amazon.com/Recovering-Autism-ADHD-Special-Needs/dp/0988853108

LowellHubbs EliCabelly Donna Loveless

The toxins were removed from vaccinations over a decade ago? Have you ever read the vaccine ingredients list? Was the only toxin you know of, Thimerosal, (mercury)? I think you need to start doing some actual and independent research. What about aluminum adjuvants and vaccine contamination?

Vaccine Ingredients
http://novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/

Vaccine dangers: Bombshell admissions from CDC’s 1999 Epidemiologist

There is absolute confirmation of the following health anomalies that have been plaguing U.S. and global population children’s health before the age of six, now and for the last two decades.

Degenerative and developmental disorders
Renal disorders
Elevated risks for disorders such as: Autism, sleep disorders, and speech disorders

The unfortunate truth finally has been revealed that the U.S. CDC and others knew about mercury in vaccines causing Autism back in 1999 and have been misleading us scientifically ever since!

It does not get any more criminal than that: conspiracy! And, that’s not on the part of ‘conspiracy theorists’ either; it’s on the non-deniable, self-stated, admission of a U.S. government health agency, the CDC.

Sadly, the same is still going on regarding vaccines. Currently, it’s repugnant, and no one is doing anything responsible to rectify it.

Read more:
http://www.sott.net/article/268185-Vaccine-dangers-Bombshell-admissions-from-CDCs-1999-Epidemiologist

Facts, regarding the misleading claim that mercury, (Thimerosal), has been removed from vaccines.
http://www.vacfacts.info/facts-regarding-the-misleading-claim-that-mercury-thimerosal-has-been-removed-from-vaccines.html

Glutathione, Tylenol, Vaccine Adverse Reactions, and ASD
http://www.vacfacts.info/glutathione-tylenol-vaccine-adverse-reactions-and-asd.html

Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism
http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism.html

Callous Disregard Research
http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm

Do Vaccines Cause Autism?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S1-LgYyjQg

LowellHubbs The science speaks for itself, right here. Vaccine DO cause autism.

Learn what the real, unbiased, and independent science that the CDC ignores and continues to ignore, is showing us. Clearly a situation with potentially more harm than good being done by vaccines.

Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism. (Numerous independent studies)
http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism.html

Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”.
http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

The Mechanisms of Vaccine Injury and Via Cytokine Stormhttp://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html

Vaccine Production With – Human Diploid Cells (aborted fetal cell tissue)
http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-production-with—human-diploid-cells-aborted-fetal-cell—tissue.html

Autism Spectrum Disorders

Common Sense about Autism Spectrum Disorders.Autism has a number of causes – which means you can do something to help reverse it and improve the life of your child.

http://www.health-reports.com/autism.html?engine=overture%21801&keyword=autism+resourceThe CDC

Claimed To Epidemiological Safety Studies – Verses – The Independent Physiological Vaccine Safety Science
http://www.vacfacts.info/the-cdc-claimed-to-epidemiological-safety-studies-ndash-verses-ndash-the-independent-physiological-vaccine-safety-science.html

EliCabelly amandapowell1 kb7rkyHend200How mature and educated of you. I guess name calling is an accepted debate tactic for you.
EliCabelly amandapowell1 EliCabellyklhembreeDiseases are coming back because people aren’t vaccinating their children. You fail at metaphor.
EliCabelly GinaGeer There is no connection between autism and vaccines.
EliCabelly amandapowell1 EliCabellyAutism is a genetic condition, with initial onset before birth. Everything you see after birth, with the social disorders and everything else, is secondary symptoms.
EliCabelly AngelaGoodbody There is no link between autism and vaccines. You need to help him learn coping skills to deal with all the increased perceptions he’s trying to deal with.
EliCabelly amandapowell1 kb7rkyAutism starts before birth. Autism is genetic, not from toxins or vaccines.
EliCabelly amandapowell1 rachie79 Autism has no link to vaccines or toxins.
EliCabelly unam You’re right, that is all you know. Autism has no link to vaccines.
EliCabelly amandapowell1 HeatherSaggersAutism is genetic. That’s why it’s more prevalent in boys than in girls.
EliCabelly amandapowell1 The toxins in vaccines do not contribute to autism at all. The actual onset of autism is before birth. What you saw at 12 months were secondary symptoms.
EliCabelly Donna Loveless Autism starts in utero. Autism doesn’t match any other illness based on toxic exposure. The toxins were removed from vaccinations over a decade ago, and the incidence of autism hasn’t decreased. Autism isn’t related to vaccinations.
Donna Loveless If I told you my child was neurologically damaged or brain injured by exposure to lead based paint, I would not be challenged, yet thousands of parents testify that they saw their children regress into “autism” (neurological injury) after vaccinations, and everyone is skeptical. Why? Political? Egos? Money? Parents of autistic children have proven that their children have high amounts of mercury, aluminum and other toxins (which are in the vaccines) in their blood. Many have been able to detox and reverse the autistic like symptoms. But still no one believes. Until real studies are done comparing vaccinated vs. unvaccinated we will never have a true perspective. What is everyone afraid of? Yes, I believe it’s possible there are different causes of autism… But if 1 out of 25,000 unvaccinated have autism and 1 out of 25 vaccinated have autism, we can see the problem. The autism “epidemic” we have today did not start until the vaccination schedule increased in 1990. The more vaccines, the higher the rates of autism. It’s really not so hard to figure out…… But somebody doesn’t WANT it figured out. Hmmmm.
ConcernedMom1 amandapowell1It’s such a toxic world we live in. Sadly, the chemicals in our mattresses don’t help either. They are most toxic…and contribute hugely to Crib death annually. Seems more is against our raising healthy children than is for…see this: http://www.thecauseofsids.org/Cause_of_SIDS_found_by_Jane_Sheppard.htm
amandapowell1 kb7rky  I relied on my doctors and my child did not have autism until after her 1 year flu shot.  I educated myself then and found vaccines are just a useless money making ploy.  They don’t prevent disease.  never have and never will…
amandapowell1 kb7rky Hend200  you are mean Kb. and uneducated
amandapowell1 EliCabelly Hend200  she said that because you were talking about herd immunity, a very uneducated thought
amandapowell1 EliCabelly klhembree  So I guess if I don’t bathe then you are dirty and stink EliCabelly?  or if I don’t take my birth control pills you will get pregnant? Herd immunity is just heard immunity and nothing more.  Vaccines don’t even prevent disease.  Read up on the history of vaccines.  Diseases were leaving society when the vaccines would be made.  The diseases that never got a vaccine made for them left society just as quickly as the ones with a vaccine made for them and they didn’t return like the ones with a vaccine
amandapowell1 EliCabelly  Autism is not just developmental delay.  It is a social disorder and my child did not have this at all until 1 year old.
amandapowell1 rachie79  Actually there are cures for autism that work for most kids if tried.  One is getting the toxins out of their bodies.  Guess where the toxins came from?  You guessed it… their parent’s vaccines or their own.  Sometimes other places
amandapowell1 HeatherSaggers  Ask your husband if he was vaccinated.  What about his dad?  there you go.  Your family is definitely sensitive to the vaccines and they did cause the autism in your family.
amandapowell1 The toxins in vaccines are a large contributor to autism.  I don’t think they caused my daughter’s autism all by themselves, but I also don’t think she’d have it today without them.  Autism didn’t come until her 12 month shots.  You will not ever meet an autistic individual who never had vaccines and who’s parents and grandparents never had vaccines.  Unfortunately heavy metal and other toxins to pass on from both parents to the fetus so they harm the baby.  That is why some kids are “born with autism”.  They did not have it from conception.  the toxins damaged them throughout the 9 months they were in the womb.  This also explains why some kids aren’t vaccinated and still get autism.  The toxins damage their stomachs, leading to brain problems since the gut and brain are connected.
MissyAvey ConcernedMom1 MissyAvey  I wouldn’t doubt it. Almost everything has GMO and chemicals in it nowadays.
ConcernedMom1 MissyAvey It could be GMO foods that are turning our children into what they are. Just a thought.
MissyAvey rachie79  Yes. We need to focus on helping those with Autism thrive!
rachie79 I look at it as we can not change autism once diagnosed there is no cure all that we can do is accept love and support people living with Autism and research ways we can teach them to help them thrive in life and achieve there potential.I personally would not be looking for the answer of what causes Autism as no one knows and probably never will
MissyAvey It doesn’t explain the unvaccinated children who have Autism.
unam All I know is very typical grandson was on 3 bouts of antibiotics for ear infection then on well check day given 7 immunization s to catch him up and 2 weeks was silent and stemming in him own little world. He now lives we us.
Walkingforadam For anyone interested, when I was trying to work out what I thought about this issue, I wrote two blog posts which you can find here:  http://www.walkingforadam.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/why-i-am-choosing-to-vaccinate-adam.html and here: http://www.walkingforadam.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/what-i-have-learned-about-mmr.html
HeatherSaggers Both my sons have autism, one is ‘worse’ than the other. I say worse, but he is more obvious than my other son. My husband is autistic and i am pretty sure his dad is also autistic. For me that says it is in the genes somewhere. But one thing i will always say is, that i would rather give my child a vaccination than let them catch a preventable disease and potentially die from it.

The thing about online access is if you believe something then the online world will give you the answers your looking for. For me i recently was in pain, i looked on the internet and everything i pulled up told me i had cancer. It made me worry, the symptoms fit. Yet it ended up being a pulled muscle. If you want to find that vaccines cause autism that’s what you will find online. But you only see what you have decided. I firmly believe vaccines do not CAUSE autism

kb7rky Well, of course they do! I mean, really…what do health care professionals with their CENTURIES of experience in things like this really know? I mean, after all, we all know that uneducated, vapid, moronic celebrities know far more about dangerous and deadly diseases than your doctor ever will! And, we all know, too, that just Googling your symptoms will lead to a 100% diagnosis every time!

…damn it was hard typing that with a straight face…

Too bad most of the idiots here on this board don’t bother to do real research into vaccines, but instead rely on public opinion and their own ignorance to facts to decide they’re right, and everyone else is wrong…right, Hend 200?

Yeah, I’m talking to you, you ignorant jackass…simply because most, if not all, of your idiotic comments can be easily destroyed. Never have I seen such a case of cognitive dissonance as yours. Wow. How you manage to get yourself out of bed every morning should be making headlines over on Faux Noise.

kb7rky Hend200  You’re outclassed and outnumbered, troll. Begone with thee.
EliCabelly Hend200 I’m not afraid of non vaccinate children. Why would you make such an idiotic assumption? Again, you need to learn the difference between actual science and quackery.
EliCabelly Hend200 I see you haven’t learned how to determine the difference between actual science and quackery. Maybe you should learn how to do that with your next 5 months in bed.

Good luck with that though. It took me years to figure that out.