Autism and vaccinations! Could autism / ASD be caused by vaccines? Have your say at our poll!


Autism Awareness

Autism Awareness

The debate about vaccinations and autism has been raging for over a decade now.  It is a highly contentious issue with very strong feelings on both sides.

We would like to take a “snapshot”  of the current views of our readers on the subject.  To this end we have created a poll which we would ask you to take – which you can find at the end of this post.

If you wish you can use the comments section to expand on your views and thinking in more detail.  That being said we do ask that you treat the views of others with respect and be charitable to comments that you may not agree with.

Many thanks in advance

 


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47 comments
ShelleyTzorfas
ShelleyTzorfas

WE watched in horror as towns that never had Autism before had a child or 2 suddenly Autistic because the US passed a law blocking Your right to sue a vaccine maker in regular court and kids went from a few vaccines to more than 80. 1991 hit hard -it was the year they began vaccinating NEWBORNS for a  disease they could not get-Hep B, a mad science experiment as it is spread by sex or IV drug (Sharing) use. 


This controversy among the pharma/med industry did NOT begin a decade ago- It began in 1991-some say the 1980's. In the meantime if you really want kids to recover;http://www.amazon.com/Recovering-Autism-ADHD-Special-Needs/dp/0988853108

Donna Loveless
Donna Loveless

If I told you my child was neurologically damaged or brain injured by exposure to lead based paint, I would not be challenged, yet thousands of parents testify that they saw their children regress into "autism" (neurological injury) after vaccinations, and everyone is skeptical. Why? Political? Egos? Money? Parents of autistic children have proven that their children have high amounts of mercury, aluminum and other toxins (which are in the vaccines) in their blood. Many have been able to detox and reverse the autistic like symptoms. But still no one believes. Until real studies are done comparing vaccinated vs. unvaccinated we will never have a true perspective. What is everyone afraid of? Yes, I believe it's possible there are different causes of autism... But if 1 out of 25,000 unvaccinated have autism and 1 out of 25 vaccinated have autism, we can see the problem. The autism "epidemic" we have today did not start until the vaccination schedule increased in 1990. The more vaccines, the higher the rates of autism. It's really not so hard to figure out...... But somebody doesn't WANT it figured out. Hmmmm.

amandapowell1
amandapowell1

The toxins in vaccines are a large contributor to autism.  I don't think they caused my daughter's autism all by themselves, but I also don't think she'd have it today without them.  Autism didn't come until her 12 month shots.  You will not ever meet an autistic individual who never had vaccines and who's parents and grandparents never had vaccines.  Unfortunately heavy metal and other toxins do pass on from both parents to the fetus so they harm the baby.  That is why some kids are "born with autism".  They did not have it from conception.  the toxins damaged them throughout the 9 months they were in the womb.  This also explains why some kids aren't vaccinated and still get autism.  The toxins damage their stomachs, leading to brain problems since the gut and brain are connected.  

MissyAvey
MissyAvey

It doesn't explain the unvaccinated children who have Autism.

unam
unam

All I know is very typical grandson was on 3 bouts of antibiotics for ear infection then on well check day given 7 immunization s to catch him up and 2 weeks was silent and stemming in him own little world. He now lives we us.

HeatherSaggers
HeatherSaggers

Both my sons have autism, one is 'worse' than the other. I say worse, but he is more obvious than my other son. My husband is autistic and i am pretty sure his dad is also autistic. For me that says it is in the genes somewhere. But one thing i will always say is, that i would rather give my child a vaccination than let them catch a preventable disease and potentially die from it. 


The thing about online access is if you believe something then the online world will give you the answers your looking for. For me i recently was in pain, i looked on the internet and everything i pulled up told me i had cancer. It made me worry, the symptoms fit. Yet it ended up being a pulled muscle. If you want to find that vaccines cause autism that's what you will find online. But you only see what you have decided. I firmly believe vaccines do not CAUSE autism

kb7rky
kb7rky

Well, of course they do! I mean, really...what do health care professionals with their CENTURIES of experience in things like this really know? I mean, after all, we all know that uneducated, vapid, moronic celebrities know far more about dangerous and deadly diseases than your doctor ever will! And, we all know, too, that just Googling your symptoms will lead to a 100% diagnosis every time! 


...damn it was hard typing that with a straight face...


Too bad most of the idiots here on this board don't bother to do real research into vaccines, but instead rely on public opinion and their own ignorance to facts to decide they're right, and everyone else is wrong...right, Hend 200?


Yeah, I'm talking to you, you ignorant jackass...simply because most, if not all, of your idiotic comments can be easily destroyed. Never have I seen such a case of cognitive dissonance as yours. Wow. How you manage to get yourself out of bed every morning should be making headlines over on Faux Noise.

AngelaGoodbody
AngelaGoodbody

hi so sad that they were talking at 4 and theh they stopped talking.

i didnt know they could loose speech at that age, always thought ot was earlier 18months~ 24 months approx.i was told if they talking at 3 they will not go backwards. any info would be welcome please

what preschool vac was it? my son has developemental delay and austistic traits and is progressing but he just had another vaccination jab last month at 3 years and 4 months. do u think he could get worse? how long after the injection did the symtoms come out?

thank you

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

Vaccines do not cause autism. Autism is present at or before birth. The symptoms that appear after vaccines are given are related to child development. These issues show up as a result of development with the increased pressure of heightened senses from autism, and they show up as reductions in secondary development due to less energy being available for accomplishing developmental tasks.

GinaGeer
GinaGeer

At best I was told it is like playing Russian roulette. My own account points toward vaccinated during vulnerable times that contribute to growth regression to complete non verbal and no eye contact from my child. It was too much toxic exposure. Her system needed to be strengthened and cleaned if another injection was going to be given. We waited a few years and gave another vaccine shot but seeing how illl she became immediately after we decided that would be the last time.

HeatherSaggers
HeatherSaggers

There is no medical connection between Autism and Vaccinations, i was given 'proof' there was but all of the 'proof' was people views nothing concrete. And what worries me more is people CLEANSING their children of heavy metals, this is probably more dangerous, as a human needs certain metals like Iron to function properly. There has been reports by the World Health Federation who have found no link. National Autistic Society say there is no link as well.

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@Donna Loveless Autism starts in utero. Autism doesn't match any other illness based on toxic exposure. The toxins were removed from vaccinations over a decade ago, and the incidence of autism hasn't decreased. Autism isn't related to vaccinations.

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@amandapowell1 The toxins in vaccines do not contribute to autism at all. The actual onset of autism is before birth. What you saw at 12 months were secondary symptoms.

ConcernedMom1
ConcernedMom1

@MissyAvey It could be GMO foods that are turning our children into what they are. Just a thought.

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@unam You're right, that is all you know. Autism has no link to vaccines.

amandapowell1
amandapowell1

@HeatherSaggers  Ask your husband if he was vaccinated.  What about his dad?  there you go.  Your family is definitely sensitive to the vaccines and they did cause the autism in your family.  

amandapowell1
amandapowell1

@kb7rky  I relied on my doctors and my child did not have autism until after her 1 year flu shot.  I educated myself then and found vaccines are just a useless money making ploy.  They don't prevent disease.  never have and never will...

rachie79
rachie79

I look at it as we can not change autism once diagnosed there is no cure all that we can do is accept love and support people living with Autism and research ways we can teach them to help them thrive in life and achieve there potential.I personally would not be looking for the answer of what causes Autism as no one knows and probably never will   

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@AngelaGoodbody There is no link between autism and vaccines. You need to help him learn coping skills to deal with all the increased perceptions he's trying to deal with.

amandapowell1
amandapowell1

@EliCabelly  Autism is not just developmental delay.  It is a social disorder and my child did not have this at all until 1 year old.  

Hend200
Hend200

You need to do more research. There is evidence that has been suppressed by the CDC to prove you wrong and it is irrepressible of you to make blanket statements. There are also studies which prove that demylination can occur after vaccines which we all know too well what that means. I urge everyone to do more research into the adverse reactions caused by vaccines. There are studies regarding the blood brain barrier and vaccines. I have spent a good part of the last 5 months in bed and have had a lot of time to read and research for myself and trust me when I say that you will be appalled when you dig into the damage that vaccines have on our neurological system.

klhembree
klhembree

Two people close to me have children that were born healthy. Up until the age of 4, they were able to talk and be socially active and normal. For both of them, they received their pre-school shots and within 1 month were completely non verbal autistic.

The government mandates that we be vaccinated. In fact, you will be imprisoned for not vaccinating your children. Do you honestly think they would ever admit thatshots cause autism? What a liability for them! Think of the outrage the public would have. Of course they would put a stop to any such source.

The reason this has been a widely debated topic is because people like me, who have witnessed the truth, come forward, and people who are funded by the government are paid to reassure people that shots are safe. Instead of reading articles, trust the people who know the truth from personal experience.

-mother of an asd child... who at birth and one month received duplicated shots, and is ranked severely high functioning autistic on three nationally accepted gold standard autism tests.

LowellHubbs
LowellHubbs

@EliCabelly @Donna Loveless  


The toxins were removed from vaccinations over a decade ago? Have you ever read the vaccine ingredients list? Was the only toxin you know of, Thimerosal, (mercury)? I think you need to start doing some actual and independent research. What about aluminum adjuvants and vaccine contamination?


Vaccine Ingredients 

http://novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/


Vaccine dangers: Bombshell admissions from CDC's 1999 Epidemiologist


There is absolute confirmation of the following health anomalies that have been plaguing U.S. and global population children's health before the age of six, now and for the last two decades.


Degenerative and developmental disorders

Renal disorders

Elevated risks for disorders such as: Autism, sleep disorders, and speech disorders


The unfortunate truth finally has been revealed that the U.S. CDC and others knew about mercury in vaccines causing Autism back in 1999 and have been misleading us scientifically ever since! 


It does not get any more criminal than that: conspiracy! And, that's not on the part of 'conspiracy theorists' either; it's on the non-deniable, self-stated, admission of a U.S. government health agency, the CDC. 


Sadly, the same is still going on regarding vaccines. Currently, it's repugnant, and no one is doing anything responsible to rectify it. 


Read more:

http://www.sott.net/article/268185-Vaccine-dangers-Bombshell-admissions-from-CDCs-1999-Epidemiologist


Facts, regarding the misleading claim that mercury, (Thimerosal), has been removed from vaccines.

http://www.vacfacts.info/facts-regarding-the-misleading-claim-that-mercury-thimerosal-has-been-removed-from-vaccines.html


Glutathione, Tylenol, Vaccine Adverse Reactions, and ASD

http://www.vacfacts.info/glutathione-tylenol-vaccine-adverse-reactions-and-asd.html


Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism

http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism.html


Callous Disregard Research

http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm


Do Vaccines Cause Autism? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S1-LgYyjQg

escentiallife
escentiallife

@amandapowell1
no vaccines in my ancestors or myself, so why do most of us have autism? my children were vaccinated but not at birth and that is when the autism was obvious to their autistic mother (diagnosed at age2) My grandchildren got all the nasty crap like HepB and they are past age 3 with NO SIGNS of autism. anecdotes are not science but I will never believe the damage done by the vaccines is autism. there could a link because autistics tend to be more sensitive to and unable to detoxify as well as the allistic. I am for spacing out the vaccines for autistics and a couple I am against but it has nothing to do with autism. that is ridiculous!

amandapowell1
amandapowell1

@rachie79  Actually there are cures for autism that work for most kids if tried.  One is getting the toxins out of their bodies.  Guess where the toxins came from?  You guessed it... their parent's vaccines or their own.  Sometimes other places

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@amandapowell1 @EliCabellyAutism is a genetic condition, with initial onset before birth. Everything you see after birth, with the social disorders and everything else, is secondary symptoms.

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@Hend200 I see you haven't learned how to determine the difference between actual science and quackery. Maybe you should learn how to do that with your next 5 months in bed.


Good luck with that though. It took me years to figure that out.

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@klhembree  Your children are severely high functioning autistic? Does that mean that they're barely autistic, since they're so high functioning?


I don't know of a single government that imprisons people for not vaccinating their children. What government are you referring to? As it is, vaccination is a health issue. If you do not vaccinate your child, and enough people also decide not to vaccinate, then children will start getting mumps, measles, and the other childhood illnesses that have, on occasion, killed people. Furthermore, there is no proof that vaccines cause autism. There isn't even a reasonable suggestion of the possibility that vaccines cause autism. There is nothing there.

In this case, your ignorance hurts others.

escentiallife
escentiallife

@amandapowell1 

yes finally you got it right .... You are GUESSING

I could see why the idea came about because of when you notice the autism but you can't go around deciding reality by guess. my nephew was claimed to have come down with the autism after his 4-6 month shots but I told them at birth he was autistic duh! not our fault no one can see it. 

amandapowell1
amandapowell1

@EliCabelly @klhembree  So I guess if I don't bathe then you are dirty and stink EliCabelly?  or if I don't take my birth control pills you will get pregnant? Herd immunity is just heard immunity and nothing more.  Vaccines don't even prevent disease.  Read up on the history of vaccines.  Diseases were leaving society when the vaccines would be made.  The diseases that never got a vaccine made for them left society just as quickly as the ones with a vaccine made for them and they didn't return like the ones with a vaccine

kb7rky
kb7rky

@Hend200  You're outclassed and outnumbered, troll. Begone with thee.

EliCabelly
EliCabelly

@Hend200 I'm not afraid of non vaccinate children. Why would you make such an idiotic assumption? Again, you need to learn the difference between actual science and quackery.

Hend200
Hend200

Why are you afraid of non vaccinated children if yours are? Your ignorance is hurting people with your non educated comments.